I am not a religious person, but I was raised Catholic and I remember having a lot of questions about things when I went to church and to classes when I was growing up.
Things that just didn’t seem to make sense to me…
But I guess it’s pretty normal to question your faith.
Let’s see what “plot holes” AskReddit users think exist in their religions.
43. A lot of issues.
“I could live my entire life, adhering completely to the Christian moral compass, save millions of lives, treat every person with the utmost respect and dignity, refuse all toxic thoughts and actions, and yet (according to most Christian dogma) I would still burn in hell for eternity if I didn’t believe the Christian God exists.
That sentiment alone tells me that morality, and the course of our lives in general, is irrelevant in the end. All that matters is that the Christian God gets recognition. That God, to me, sounds more narcissistic than benevolent and loving. And therefore, is not a God I wish to worship.
There’s also issues such as, if God is truly omnipotent and omniscient then he could have purged the world of all suffering and pain. But he hasn’t because… he loves us? Because somehow the gift of free will, and therefore the gift of imperfection is more important than letting your children suffer and experience pain?
Some children are born into poverty, beaten, starved, and killed before 10 years of age, without ever seeing kindness. What’s the lesson there God? Why must you treat the creations you love with such disdain solely to “make a point.”
I could go on. There’s so many issues I have with that belief system and narrative.”
42. Explain that one.
“I’ve always found it funny how in the bible, God made the sun on the fourth day.
How could there have been any days before that?”
“Jehovah’s Witness over here.
This would probably be the longest comment on this post because I’ll go into specific details.
They’re hypocrites: JWs laugh at other religions for predicting when the world would end. But the founder of our religion and other very influential members of our religion had made several predictions in the past, none of which came to past. I hate hypocrisy with passion.
They think they’re the ‘true religion’, but on the other hand, all other religion thinks the same of their own religion, which is absolutely fine by me. The problem with me about this claim is that, JWs think that only faithful members of their religion would be saved.
This is actually a blasphemy against the image of God. How would a loving God kill billions of people and only save a very few millions of people? Such ‘God’ is not compassionate and doesn’t have love in his heart.
They claim that our religion is full of unconditional love, and you cannot find such love outside the religion. This is a blatant lie, directed to mislead the public and/or interested members. The love they have is highly conditional on the fact that you remain one of their members.
If you stop being a member, you’ll be highly shunned, even by your family members who are JWs.
They try to make pre-teens and teens baptize (clearly deviating from Jesus’ example, by baptizing at 30 y/o) with the guise of ‘surviving’ Armageddon.
They know it’s a huge responsibility on the path of teenagers, one that can be likened to marriage, but feels it’s completely right for pre-teens and teens, who have little or no idea to get baptized.
They cover up for pedophiles. There are reports of child s*x abuse in the organization than meets the eye, but they cover this all up under the guise of “Protecting the name of Jehovah”. To them, child s*x abuse is no crime at all, it is rather a sin.
Majority of the people are depressed and utterly fed up on the religion, but cannot stop being a member because once they do, they’ll lose all their friends and families who are members. Worst case scenario is that, all your friends are witnesses, so if you disassociate yourself, you would be friendless.
They say God gave us the free will to do whatever we want, and as they strive to be Godlike they follow this rule. FALSE! They snitch on you, stalk you (they are very good at stalking), and monitor your whole life to see when you’d make a small mistake, and then form a Judicial committee just to ruin your life.
They don’t like dissenting voices. If you ever try to question/criticize any of their teachings, you’ll be viewed as an apostate, and then shunned for the rest of your life.
They discriminate big time, especially when you are no part of their religion.
They advice against higher education. This is because we’d gain more knowledge by furthering our education and then see that most of their teachings are false, and not based on fact or nonsensical.
There are pretty much many other things I’m disgusted at, which aren’t mentioned here in my religion, but I’d stop here.
Advice to non-members: If they ever try to recruit you, please, do not ever give in. It would be the worst mistake to make in this life.”
40. Does that add up?
“Horses were not on the continent at the supposed time of the prophet.
After some backpedaling, the church tried to say the writings were about tapirs, thought to be horses.”
39. Conflicting accounts.
“Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all have different conflicting accounts of what happened regarding the empty tomb.
Did just Mary go alone or did the other Mary go too? Was there an earthquake or did the stone instantly move away or was the stone already rolled away? Did one or two or no angels show and talk to them? Did they go and tell everyone or were they too afraid to?
Did they find Jesus was gone and then called the disciples to come see or did the angels tell them to go tell all the disciples? Did Jesus appear in the tomb and talk to Mary?
This is one of the plot holes that led me from being a firm believer fundamentalist to an agnostic wishy washy whatevs guy 😀
Now my Christian belief system has to come to terms with the Perfect Word of God and the imperfect accounts in the Old and New Testaments.”
“If Satan punishes those who sin, wouldn’t he be considered a good guy?
Alternatively, if Satan is a bad guy, why would he punish other sinners?”
37. You better learn.
“I’m my religion when you die, you wake up in Dark Souls.
Even if you’re a good person.
I don’t know how to use swords though.”
36. A betrayal?
“That Judas betrayal of Jesus doesn’t make sense.
Jesus wasn’t hiding. He rode into Jerusalem in broad daylight.
Everyone knew he was coming. Judas’ help wasn’t needed to catch him.”
“I could write a whole book of plot holes found within, but a big one is polygamy.
Yes, the central Mormon church in Utah is infamous for polygamy back in the day, but in the Doctrine & Covenants (companion piece of scripture unique to the religion) there is a verse that more or less states “Even though there are rampant rumors that we take on more than one wife, it’s all BS. We’re against polygamy.”
That section was written before polygamy was openly practiced and widely known by membership… but at the same time Joseph Smith (founder of the religion) and his inner circle were marrying up multiple women left and right.”
34. A different perspective.
“So I’m Christian but never got why there was more than one race, I’m not being racist, but I’m guessing Adam and Eve were the same race and the genetics don’t make sense.”
33. Condemn them!
“God teaches us that it is a sin to be envious, and to be prideful, and that we must have compassion and understanding for others.
And yet he will literally condemn someone to an eternity in hell for not worshiping him, even if said person has literally never heard of him.”
32. No fun at all.
“The concept of eternal peace and joy in heaven sounds very psychologically degrading long term.
It sounds like living like a pet dog.”
31. Adam 2.0.
“It’s said that God’s first plan was to just create Adam. Then Adam started b*tching about him wanting to be alone and out of parts god took from Adam he made Eve.
But here’s my question, how would Adam have reproduced if he wouldn’t have felt the need for a female companion? Gay s*x? With himself? Did he have reproductive organs that could just spit out Adam 2.0?
30. That is strange…
“God: Creates homos*xuals.
Homos*xual people: Do homos*xual stuff.
God: What the f*ck?!”
29. How did that happen?
“That the earth way created in 3 day. How TF were there days before the earth existed?
Was God measuring ‘days’ based off another planet he created?”
“I know someone who’s Baha’i.
They believe that every prophet talked about the same god, but according to what He wanted/thought was best at that certain time, and they believe that god is only good. No need to get deep with that second thing, and for the first one, something that kinda p*sses me off, seeing how incoherent it is, they recognize every prophet, until Baha’u’llah (19th century).
The ones who came after, welp, don’t care. But according to their faith, they should follow the most recent religion. Tho, they also say there are some fake prophets who act for their own pleasure etc etc. So here’s the thing, and i guess i should ask, to see if they all believe that.”
27. This one right here.
“The fact that god literally killed humanity because they were all sinners, but then he says love your fellow human.”
26. Explain that one.
“God is perfect and cannot sin.
There exists “the wrath of God.”
Wrath is one of the seven deadly sins.
“What happened to all the fresh water fish in the flood”
And where did all that water come from in the first place? And then where did it all drain to?”
24. Wait. What?
“”In the beginning there was Adam and Eve” Ok, I’m following that. 2 people on the planet.
They had 2 sons named Cain and Able. Yep, still with it. 4 people on the planet.
Cain killed Able. Ok, thats down to 3 people on the planet.
Cain took a wife. Wait, wut?”
23. Where are they?
“The lack of dinosaurs.
But, the Bible has a few verses in it describing monstrosities that could be dinosaurs. Even dragons…”
21. Not a fan.
“If God is the all knowing intelligent being that created everything, what was his reasoning around making foxes mating noises.
If humans are his children and he loves us why make us suffer every night listening to screaming of little horny foxes.”
20. The big one.
“Plot hole: there are hundreds of other religions that also claim to be the only true one.”
19. Uh oh…
“If Adam and Eve were the first two people on Earth and are responsible for the birth of all people ever, than the entire human race is the product of incest.
Although, to be fair, that does explain quite a lot.”
18. What happens
“If good people go to heaven and bad people goes to hell, and also we’ll see again loved one after death, what happen when a good people love a bad people? Think about a mother with a serial killer son for instance.
Is the good people condemned to spend eternity without their loved one? How is it fair?”
17. Rigging the lottery.
“My wife and I got married in the church that her and her family went to growing up. Part of the process of being married in the church meant that we had to do pre marriage classes.
During these classes we had to discuss a variety of topics including s*xual relationships between husband and wife.
We were told that the catholic church does not believe in any form of birth control, a child is a gift from god.
Couples looking to engage in intercourse just need to keep track of a woman’s cycle and that would be fine. Kind of seemed like someone trying to rig a lottery.”
16. Something to think about.
“If man is not perfect, but man wrote the Bible how am I supposed to trust what I’m reading from the Bible.
How do I know they didn’t mess anything up?”
“If you’re god and you need to split off part of you to send to earth to die for the sins of mankind, wouldn’t it just be faster to like…forgive them yourself?
I mean, you aren’t scoring points from me for this convoluted story of some virgin getting knocked up by you to give birth to a form of you that I’m supposed to feel bad about when they die for my sins even though that was their whole purpose.”
“We can read Egyptian hieroglyphics. They kept extensive records.
No mention of using Jewish slaves to build the pyramids, them revolting, a royal named Moses or a Red Sea parting.”
13. Doesn’t add up.
“Virgin Mary had a child.
Glances suspiciously at churches/catholic schools stating abstinence is 100% effective in avoiding a pregnancy…”
12. Greek Gods.
“I always found it hypocritical that the gods punished Oedipus for sleeping with his mother without realizing it, despite the fact that Zeus married his own sister while being fully aware that they were siblings.”
“Why does a Christian will condemn someone to Hell for being gay (condemning someone to Hell also being forbidden), because Leviticus, while eating shrimp and covered in tattoos, also Leviticus.
Then telling the gay person it’s ok for the Christian because Christ loves them, and he’s cool with it. Isn’t sin, sin?
Is there only a 30 day sentence for eating shrimp, but death penalty for loving someone of your same s*x?”
“The best warriors are chosen upon death and half of them is sent to Valhalla.
The problem is that it’s the worse half of the chosen. So you have to get enough battle prowess but not too much if you want to get to Valhalla… or you can use the Persuasion skill, of course.”
9. They sure do.
“Why do Christians think the characters in the bible are white or very Caucasian looking?”
8. Just plain wrong.
“I am Jewish. I am also a massive ancient history nerd.
In one of the first parts of the Torah, Abraham “returns to the land of the Philistines.”
Problem: There were no Philistines at the putative time of Abraham. Even from the perspective of Biblical narrative.
The Philistines arrive at the end of the 1200s BCE and were only barely established in the current Gaza area by the time the Israelites start establishing themselves in portions of modern0day Israel/Palestine.
The chronology is just plain wrong.”
7. Former Catholic.
“I used to be Catholic; I’m now an atheist.
But, if Jesus came to save everyone from sin 2,000 years ago, what about all the other human beings who lived and died 150,000 years before he showed up? Why weren’t they saved?
Christians will tell you that God saved them anyway, but why do we then have to deal with the can of worms Jesus opened and we have to follow the Ten Commandments and go to Church and tithe and everything else when they didn’t have to?
There are about 100 billion galaxies each with about 100 billion stars; the odds are very favorable that intelligent life exists elsewhere containing civilizations who will rise up and go extinct before we ever even get CLOSE to finding them. Are they saved? Why didn’t Jesus go to them?
The Bible is an arbitrary collection. Works were edited, things were lost in translation, books of the Bible were accumulated over time and voted on by councils; some made it in, some didn’t.
Given that it’s basically held together by centuries of drafts and edits and additions and subtractions, how can we trust it? Yet, it’s supposed to be THE word of God.
…I could go on.
There’s nothing like being raised Catholic to make you a nonbeliever.”
6. The interpretation of it.
“Not really a plot hole in the Christianity , but a plot hole in the interpretation of it.
Christianity was originally highly Jewish based and they didn’t like Romans, a few centuries later it was Roman/ European based and they heavily discriminated Jewish people.
5. BIG plot holes.
“God loves everyone equally!
He doesn’t punish people for the sins of their forefathers! Except, you know, black people are cursed because their ancestors sinned. That’s why they have dark skin. Oh, and women suffer through periods, pregnancy, and birth because Eve ate the apple first.
But, you know, he doesn’t punish people for things they didn’t do!
I left the religion because of racist, s*xist sh*t like this so yay.”
4. Sounds a little fishy…
“Jesus supposedly came to Earth in 1919 and declared my former religion (the Jehovah’s Witnesses) to be the one true religion, even though there’s no proof of this happening…”
3. As simple as that.
“Virgin birth and a talkin snake to start.”
2. Noah’s Ark.
“Most of the Bible stories but the whole Noah’s Ark thing is so bizarre.How can all of those animals fit on the boat? How did they get all of those animals from all around the world?
And how do they feed the animals, do they give the lions a leg of one of the zebras?”
1. A big contradiction.
“No longer religious, but one of the biggest contradictions in Christianity is that human beings by nature are morally imperfect beings. Yet a necessary component for the forgiveness of sins includes having the right sort of beliefs toward Jesus.
How does it make sense that a person’s eternal destiny relies solely on an imperfect being having a specific belief. I think we can all agree that human beings are morally imperfect, but I’d argue that they’re far more imperfect when it comes to having true beliefs (assuming Christianity was true).
It seems entirely unfair that that is the thing that people are judged on. People would have to be epistemically perfect to be judged on their beliefs.”
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